Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: Feb 1713 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Christened: 11 Feb 1713 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Died: 2 Mar 1775 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Buried:
Father: Thomas BAKER (1681-1756) 29
Mother: Dorothy GILBERT (1677-1761) 29
Marriage: 13 Feb 1738 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Other Spouse: Ann VALYER (Abt 1716-1783) 29 - 13 Feb 1737 - Canterbury, , Kent, England
Wife
Born:
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Children
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
Name: Thomas BAKER -216 Christened: 11 FEB 1713
According to notes of Vern Hall, Thomas Baker was Mayor of Folkestone.
Thomas BAKER was christened 11 Feb 1713 in Folkestone, Kent, England. He died 1775 in Folkestone, Kent, England. He was sealed to his parents on 15 Mar 1951 in the Idaho Falls temple. Thomas was baptized 15 Jan 1949. He was endowed 24 May 1950. Thomas married Ann Vallier on 13 Feb 1738 in Folkestone, Kent, England. They were sealed 25 Aug 1952 in the Idaho Falls temple.
Ann Vallier was christened 19 Feb 1716 in Folkestone, Kent, England. She died 1783 in Folkestone, Kent, England. She was sealed to her parents on 16 Apr 1960 in the St. George temple. Ann was baptized 11 Oct 1949. She was endowed 1 Nov 1949. Source: http://www.noffsinger.org/genealogy/[TopleyFamily.FTW]
Shelley Haigger provided the following additional information: "Looking at some of the BAKERs on your website, I think that you may be interested in the following (from ancient monumental inscriptions etc.):
Thomas BAKER died 2 Mar 1775 age 62. Left Ann his wife (?5) sons and dau - Thomas, William, .............., John, ................. ."
Notes: Marriage
[TopleyFamily.FTW]
These sources say marriage was in Canterbury: Ann VALLYER Sex: F Marriage(s): Spouse:
Thomas BAKER
Marriage:
13 Feb 1737
Canterbury, Kent, England
IGI Source Information: Film Number: 55202
See also IGI Source Information: Batch number: A455198 Source Call No. 455198-455202 Type Film
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1739 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Christened: 23 Nov 1739 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Died:
Buried:
Father: Thomas BAKER (1713-1775) 29
Mother: Ann VALYER (Abt 1716-1783) 29
Marriage: 11 Oct 1760 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Wife Mary BROWN 29
Born: Abt 1740
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
1 F Elizabeth BAKER 29
Born: 1762 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 4 Apr 1762 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died:
Buried:
2 F Sarah BAKER 29
Born: 1765 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 4 Jan 1765 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died:
Buried:
3 M Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1768 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 6 Nov 1768 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died:
Buried:
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
General Notes: Wife - Mary BROWN
General Notes: Child - Elizabeth BAKER
General Notes: Child - Sarah BAKER
General Notes: Child - Thomas BAKER
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1770 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 12 Oct 1770 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: 1771 445
Buried:
Father: William BAKER (1741-1818) 29
Mother: Elizabeth BATEMAN (1742- ) 29
Wife
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1684 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 8 Mar 1684 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died:
Buried:
Father: Robert BAKER (Abt 1642-1706) 29
Mother: Mary CHAPMAN (1644-1714) 29
Wife
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
Need to check if this is the Thomas Baker married to Dorothy Gilbert (which would indicate his older brother died in childhood).
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: Abt 1853 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Father: Thomas Podd BAKER (1830- ) 29
Mother: Margaret PENNY (1830- ) 29
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation, Mariner
Wife
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1609
Christened: 30 Jul 1609 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: 23 Nov 1682 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Buried: 29 Nov 1682
Father: Thomas BAKER (1575-1630) 29
Mother: Agnes BAKER (1579-After 1629) 29
Marriage: 21 Oct 1633 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Other Spouse: Alice (Abt 1640- ) 29 - 15 Jun 1669
Wife Elizabeth SMEED 29
Born: 1603 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: 13 Dec 1668 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Buried:
Children
1 F Elizabeth BAKER 29
Born: Jan 1635 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 25 Jan 1635 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: After 16 Nov 1682
Buried:
Spouse: Christopher PENNY (1637- ) 28,29,37,336,337
Marr: 4 Jan 1663 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
2 F Susannah BAKER 29
AKA: Susan BAKER
Born: Abt 1637 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 16 Nov 1682
Buried:
3 F Mary BAKER 29
Born: Abt 1639 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 16 Nov 1682
Buried:
4 M Robert BAKER 29
Born: Abt 1642 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: 7 Sep 1706 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Buried: Bef 10 Oct 1706
Spouse: Mary CHAPMAN (1644-1714) 29
Marr: 11 Jun 1667 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Burial Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
Note
Research Notes: Wife - Elizabeth SMEED
Elizabeth SMEED
Sex: F Born:
1603
Of Folkestone, Kent, England Parents: Source Information: IGI Film Number: 1761161; Also see IGI Film Number: 2034623
I have an alternative death date of 1688, but that is probably a typo.
Notes: Marriage
Elizabeth SMEED Sex: F Born:
1603
, England Marriage(s): Spouse:
Thomas BAKER Source Information: IGI Batch number: F791282 Sheet: 36
See also: Elizabeth SMEED Marriage(s): Spouse:
Thomas BAKER Marriage:
21 Oct 1633
Folkstone, Kent, England Source Information: IGI Batch number: 7129527 Sheet: 49
Death Notes: Child - Elizabeth BAKER
Note
Death Notes: Child - Susannah BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Susannah BAKER
Death Notes: Child - Mary BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Mary BAKER
Burial Notes: Child - Robert BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Robert BAKER
Name: Robert BAKER -902 Birth: 1642
According to notes provided by Paul Foulger: Robert Baker was an Innholder who "w. 27 June 1706"
Burried Bef 10 Oct. 1706 (Will Probated)
See also: http://home.att.net/~kvaars/genealogy/dat78.htm
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: Abt 1551 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Buried:
Father: Thomas BAKER (Abt 1530- ) 29
Mother: Joane (Abt 1530- ) 29
Marriage:
Wife Elizabeth PALMER 29
Born: Abt 1555 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593
Buried:
Father: Thomas PALMER ( - ) 29
Mother:
Children
1 M Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1575 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: 9 Feb 1630 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Buried:
Spouse: Agnes BAKER (1579-After 1629) 29
Marr: 7 Jul 1597 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
2 F Susannah BAKER 29
AKA: Susanna BAKER
Born: Bef 1577 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593
Buried:
3 M Robert BAKER 29
Born: Bef 1581 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593
Buried:
4 M Henry BAKER 29
Born: 1581 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593
Buried:
5 M Richard BAKER 29
Born: Bef 1583 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593
Buried:
6 F Alice BAKER 29
Born: Bef 1583 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593
Buried:
7 F Joane BAKER 29
Born: Bef 1585 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593
Buried:
8 F Hester BAKER 29
Born: Bef 1587 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: After 27 Jul 1593
Buried:
Research Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
Name: Thomas BAKER -939 Birth:
According to Vern Hall's notes, Baker was a "Jurat" who "w. 27 July 1593"
Died Bef 10 Oct. 1593 (Will Probated)
Death Notes: Wife - Elizabeth PALMER
Note
Burial Notes: Child - Thomas BAKER
Note
Research Notes: Child - Thomas BAKER
Name: Thomas BAKER -925 Birth:
Listed as "Jurat" and "w. 6 Feb 1629" in notes by Vern Hall.
Death Notes: Child - Susannah BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Susannah BAKER
Susannah Baker, born circa 1577, may be married to Thomas Jenkin. Very tenuous...
Death Notes: Child - Robert BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Robert BAKER
Death Notes: Child - Henry BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Henry BAKER
Christened on 9 April 1581
Death Notes: Child - Richard BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Richard BAKER
Death Notes: Child - Alice BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Alice BAKER
Death Notes: Child - Joane BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Joane BAKER
Death Notes: Child - Hester BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Hester BAKER
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1681 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 21 Jan 1681 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: Sep 1756 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Buried:
Father: Robert BAKER (Abt 1642-1706) 29
Mother: Mary CHAPMAN (1644-1714) 29
Marriage: 7 Jan 1708 - Postling, , Kent, England
Noted events in his life were:
• Occupation, Twice Mayor of Folkestone
• Alt. Death, (Will Dated), Folkestone, Kent, England, After 6 Aug 1756
Wife Dorothy GILBERT 29
Born: 1677 - Chartham, , Kent, England
Christened: 3 Jan 1677 - Chartham, , Kent, England
Died: 22 Mar 1761 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Buried:
Children
1 F Mary BAKER 29
Born: 1708 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 19 Dec 1708 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: After 6 Aug 1756
Buried:
Spouse: Thomas GODDEN (1703- ) 29
Marr: 15 Sep 1729 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
2 F Elizabeth BAKER 29
Born: 1710 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 27 Aug 1710 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: After 6 Aug 1756
Buried:
Spouse: Richard KING ( - ) 29
3 F Ann BAKER 29
Born: 1711 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 9 Dec 1711 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: After 6 Aug 1756
Buried:
Spouse: William DIXON (Abt 1710- ) 29
Marr: 29 Jul 1732 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
4 M Thomas BAKER 29
Born: Feb 1713 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Christened: 11 Feb 1713 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Died: 2 Mar 1775 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 29
Buried:
Spouse: Ann VALYER (Abt 1716-1783) 29
Marr: 13 Feb 1737 - Canterbury, , Kent, England
5 F Susannah BAKER 29
AKA: Susanna BAKER
Born: 1718 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 10 Aug 1718 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: After 6 Aug 1756
Buried:
Spouse: Richard TOES (Abt 1714- ) 29
Marr: 13 Sep 1740 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
6 M John BAKER 29
Born: 1720 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 2 Oct 1720 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: After 6 Aug 1756
Buried:
Spouse: Eleanor BROWN ( - ) 29
Marr: 13 Oct 1745 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Burial Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
Note
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
According to Shelley Haigger: "Looking at some of the BAKERs on your website, I think that you may be interested in the following (from ancient monumental inscriptions etc.):
Thomas BAKER died Sep 1756 age 75. Twice mayor. Left 2 sons and 4 daughters - Thomas, John, Mary, Elizabeth, ........, ........... ."
General Notes: Wife - Dorothy GILBERT
Gilbert, Dorothy Death : 22 Mar 1761 Folkstone, Kent, England Gender: Female Parents: Father: Gilbert, John Mother: POOLYN, Dorothy
Family: Marriage: 7 Jan 1707/8 in Postling, Kent, England Spouse: BAKER, Thomas Death : aft 6 Aug 1756 (Will Dated), Folkestone, Kent, England Gender: Male Parents: Father: BAKER, Robert Mother: CHAPMAN, Mary
Children: BAKER, Mary BAKER, Elizabeth BAKER, Ann BAKER, Thomas BAKER, Susanna BAKER, John
Death Notes: Child - Mary BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Mary BAKER
(AFN:GZZK-ZS)
Death Notes: Child - Elizabeth BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Elizabeth BAKER
(AFN:GZZL-0X)
Death Notes: Child - Ann BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Ann BAKER
(AFN:GZZL-14)
General Notes: Child - Thomas BAKER
Name: Thomas BAKER -216 Christened: 11 FEB 1713
According to notes of Vern Hall, Thomas Baker was Mayor of Folkestone.
Thomas BAKER was christened 11 Feb 1713 in Folkestone, Kent, England. He died 1775 in Folkestone, Kent, England. He was sealed to his parents on 15 Mar 1951 in the Idaho Falls temple. Thomas was baptized 15 Jan 1949. He was endowed 24 May 1950. Thomas married Ann Vallier on 13 Feb 1738 in Folkestone, Kent, England. They were sealed 25 Aug 1952 in the Idaho Falls temple.
Ann Vallier was christened 19 Feb 1716 in Folkestone, Kent, England. She died 1783 in Folkestone, Kent, England. She was sealed to her parents on 16 Apr 1960 in the St. George temple. Ann was baptized 11 Oct 1949. She was endowed 1 Nov 1949. Source: http://www.noffsinger.org/genealogy/[TopleyFamily.FTW]
Shelley Haigger provided the following additional information: "Looking at some of the BAKERs on your website, I think that you may be interested in the following (from ancient monumental inscriptions etc.):
Thomas BAKER died 2 Mar 1775 age 62. Left Ann his wife (?5) sons and dau - Thomas, William, .............., John, ................. ."
Death Notes: Child - Susannah BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - Susannah BAKER
(AFN:GZZL-3G)
Death Notes: Child - John BAKER
Note
General Notes: Child - John BAKER
Dear Richard:
I had cause to investigate some members of the Baker family and found what might be an error when I compared what I found on the IGI with an entry submitted to your site.
It concerns John Baker, born abt 1720, son of Thomas Baker and Dorothy Gilbert. In the past he has been associated with the marriage to Elizabeth Hill but the IGI indicates that this John married Eleanor Brown, 13 Oct 1745, Folkestone. They had the following children, all Folkestone: Sarah chr 13 Apr 1747 Ellen chr 10 Mar 1749 d. 31 Mar 1751 Edmund chr 19 Apr 1751 d. 18 Sep 1751 Edmund chr 17 Jul 1752 John chr 26 Jan 1755 Ellen or Helen chr 8 Jul 1757 Mary chr 5 Mar 1760 Ann chr 28 May 1762
Edmund (1752) married Margaret Smith, 11 Oct 1774 and had
John chr 13 Mar 1778 Margaret chr 7 Nov 1779 (all records again for Folkestone) John married Elizabeth but there are two possibilities here and I have a contact who is working on this.
I stress that the above records are what I have gleaned from the IGI and thus should be verified by a 'Baker expert'- but the John Baker who married Elizabeth Hill in 1757 is given as born abt 1732 so definitely not the John born 1720.
Best wishes
Jane E. Marshall
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Neil Harvey (Email: nharvey.keytechuk@btinternet.com) writes:
Hi,
If I may add my two pennyworth to this debate, the Folkestone Gedcom has two Johns, but some confusion!
John Baker chr 2 Oct 1720, son of Thomas Baker (Jan 1681) & Dorothy Gilbert, is shown:-
Marriage 1 13 Oct 1745 Eleanor Brown
Marriage 2 13 Feb 1757 Elizabeth Hill
John Baker chr 3 March 1724/5, son of Edmund Baker (Dec 1691) & Sarah (Unknown) is shown:
Marriage 13/10/1745 Eleanor Brown.
Obviously (at least) one of the entries is incorrect but the additional data might help in resolving the issue.
I have just found and posted four children for the John Baker & Elizabeth Hill marriage. There are also a number of children in the gedcom of the John Baker/Eleanor Brown marriage (though you do not seem to have this marriage or the children, the entries check out with the IG records).
This now shows that:-
The John Baker/Elizabeth Brown marriage was producing children from 1747-1762.
John Baker & Elizabeth Hill were married 13 Feb 1757 and producing children from 1760 to 1766.
If we rule out bigamy, it would seem it is NOT possible that one John was the husband of both. Therefore the question seems to be, if these are the right two Johns, which was which?
In the gedcom only the Oct 1720 John is shown married to Elizabeth Hill (whereas both are shown married to Eleanor), which might suggest the Mar 1724/5 John as the husband of Eleanor. Inconveniently, the earlier John would then have the later marriage (he would have been 37 on marriage), so no clear clue there.
Do you have any additional data which might help in resolving the issue?
All the best,
Neil
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1602
Christened: 18 Sep 1602 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died: Bef 30 Jul 1609
Buried:
Father: Thomas BAKER (1575-1630) 29
Mother: Agnes BAKER (1579-After 1629) 29
Wife
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1779 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 11 Aug 1779 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died:
Buried:
Father: William BAKER (1741-1818) 29
Mother: Elizabeth BATEMAN (1742- ) 29
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Alice GITTENS (1791-1828) 445
Wife Mary PART 29,445
Born: Abt 1783 - Ashford, , Kent, England
Christened:
Died: 1860 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 445
Buried:
Children
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
1851 UK CENSUS: Place: Folkestone Thomas BAKER, Head, M, 71, b.Folkestone Mary BAKER, Wife, M, 67, b.Ashford
General Notes: Wife - Mary PART
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1779 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 11 Aug 1779 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died:
Buried:
Father: William BAKER (1741-1818) 29
Mother: Elizabeth BATEMAN (1742- ) 29
Marriage:
Other Spouse: Mary PART (Abt 1783-1860) 29,445
Wife Alice GITTENS 445
Born: 1791 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 445
Christened:
Died: 1828 - Folkestone, , Kent, England 445
Buried:
Children
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER
1851 UK CENSUS: Place: Folkestone Thomas BAKER, Head, M, 71, b.Folkestone Mary BAKER, Wife, M, 67, b.Ashford
Husband Thomas BAKER 29
Born: 1768 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Christened: 6 Nov 1768 - Folkestone, , Kent, England
Died:
Buried:
Father: Thomas BAKER (1739- ) 29
Mother: Mary BROWN (Abt 1740- ) 29
Wife
Born:
Christened:
Died:
Buried:
Children
General Notes: Husband - Thomas BAKER